Yup. Until somebody takes the people in #2 seriously, treating them as people and not demons, and not assuming that we have The Truth and they just need to listen to us (for any value of outsider "us"), we're not going to get anywhere. We need to understand their perspective, understand what keeps them up at night, and care about that.

Sure, some of them are racists, part of the rape culture, and otherwise unacceptable. I really don't think it's most of them.