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(No significant spoilers here, but there will be at least one or two in the comments, where I'll note a couple more details.)

My general take on Solo is that it was very well-executed, but a little less ambitious than I wish it had been.

Putting it simply: this was an origin story. Its purpose was to flesh out where Han Solo came from, and it generally does that quite nicely. We start out with a Han who is young and already roguish, but fairly idealistic -- not starry-eyed or terribly naive, but generally wanting to do the right thing. This is the story of how that kid winds up as the man we know from previous movies: still generally good, but more walled-off and cynical, and skeptical of idealism.

By the numbers, the movie does just about everything right. The acting ranges from good to excellent: in particular, both Han and Lando are nailed more perfectly than I would have considered plausible, and the gang that Han falls in with are all delicious. Mind, it's still Star Wars -- you're not going to see the deepest subtlety here -- but it all feels right. The script is clever, and of course the SFX are a delight as always.

My only real complaint is that the movie basically never surprised me. I could guess most of the major beats from the get-go, and was generally right. (And mind, I'm no great genius at this stuff: if you understand the tropes it is playing with, it follows them faithfully.)

Moreover, the movie is so completely about fan-service that it felt like it had little else to it. I mean, it's not a major spoiler to say that a good third of the movie is simply about making the "Kessel Run" line from Star Wars make sense. And for all that the fanboy in me was well-satisfied by the sheer number of details it explains and lays out, I kind of wanted more from it.

So: solidly good. Well worth seeing for any Star Wars fan, and self-contained enough that you don't have to be a SW geek to appreciate it. (Indeed, it might actually be a better film if you don't know quite as much -- many of the things I thought were completely obvious wouldn't be if you didn't have the background.) But there's nothing especially elevated about it: simply due to feeling like it wasn't trying as hard, I don't think it was anywhere near as interesting as either Rogue One or Last Jedi. If it's your sort of thing, get to a theater soon.

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Date: 2018-05-29 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] herooftheage
So in the animated canon, Maul survives Phantom Menace.

Characters from Rogue One appear in Rebels, as does Maul. So I think this is a few years before A New Hope.
Edited Date: 2018-05-29 07:26 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2018-05-29 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] herooftheage
Unobvious enough that a lot of people find it unbelievable. :)

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Date: 2018-06-06 01:05 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] etherial
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NoOneCouldSurviveThat

Also his clanky legs were supposed to indicate that he was a Cyborg.

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Date: 2018-05-29 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] hungrytiger
Maul - This confused me too but, as Tom said, he was shown as having survived in the SW Rebels TV series. Now this is still difficult in the film as most viewers won't have also seen Rebels, but OTOH, we never did see Maul's dead body. Yes, we saw him sliced in half and falling into a pit, but we've seen lots of people fall into lots of pits in SW and we've seen Vader survive lots of body parts sliced off and being dumped in lava. So don't think of this as messing with the timeline, but as a surprise reveal that Maul is still alive. I'll have to rewatch Solo, but I'm told that you can even tell in the hologram that Maul may have a robotic lower half.

Fan Service - Oh yeah, I was loving the Easter Eggs. When the Falcon stalled out in the middle of a high tension scene, I literally burst out laughing.

Qi'ra - As the audience, I think it's supposed to be obvious to us that Qi'ra will betray Han eventually. We're supposed to see it as part of his journey to cynicism. What surprised me was that she lived.

Depth - TNT was showing the original films this weekend and we've been watching bits of them. One thing that struck me afterwards that added some depth to Solo, is the whole storyline with L3 and the droid rebellion. It was well done in the film, both clever and really funny, but it adds a lot of resonance to how droids are treated in the other films.

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Date: 2018-05-29 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] herooftheage
I really liked Qi'ra's treatment - it isn't clear, nor is it supposed to be I think, whether she did what she did to save Han, by keeping him off Crimson Dawn's radar, or just decided to throw her fate in with them.

One thing I think the movie did correctly was to not have The Force appear at all - it gives Han the reason for thinking "Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side". It means if he does end up facing off against Maul later, he's got to win, which will pose other problems for Maul's SW Rebels eventual fate.

And of course, Han shoots first!

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Date: 2018-05-29 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] hungrytiger
Yes. I loved that they put in a definitive Han Shot First moment.

As for Maul, if they are considering the SW Rebels and Clone Wars series canon (which they are as I understand it), then Maul's actual end was already seen there. As Obi-Wan defeats him to avenge then death of Qui-gon -- Of course, if they do eventually make a movie about Obi-wan's time in exile, then this could be part of it.

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Date: 2018-05-29 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] herooftheage
And I can't help but note, we haven't seen Solo's body either. Just sayin'.

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Date: 2018-05-30 05:33 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] herooftheage
Also, if the whole Rebels thing is a red herring, this Maul could always be a clone, of course.

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