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Signs of the times. It just occurred to me how many of the companies I've been interacting with professionally have TwoWord names, in that form: two capitalized words smashed together. Not surprising, given the way the Internet namespace has been running out, but it's amusing to watch the commercial world turn into a giant Wiki...

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Date: 2005-05-17 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cvirtue.livejournal.com
You think maybe its the '00s version of the Three Initial Company (TIC)?

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Date: 2005-05-17 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goldsquare.livejournal.com
I think you meant TLA. (Three Letter Acronym).

I'm tired of , which came after TLA and before BizOTronic... or, since this is [livejournal.com profile] jducoeur's LJ, OptiMed... (A product we both worked on - not exactly a company name.)

There was also the short-lived blip of "misspelling or truncating a name" to be memorable. (Cingular, Genuity). The current rage is "a name which means nothing at all", cf Altria.

Some day I will create a software company, and I will use the name I co-opted from a friend so many years ago. Splendidus. Splendidus Software or Splendidus Consulting. My favorite company name is Ab Initio, similar reasons....

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Date: 2005-05-17 03:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cvirtue.livejournal.com
TIC was the one in the comic Eyebeam, iirc. Same idea; they all worked for TIC.

I think your editing erased a word? The one before the comma in "I'm tired of , which came after TLA"

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Date: 2005-05-17 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goldsquare.livejournal.com
Ah I forgot how LJ treats angle brackets.

"I'm tired of <color><noun>, which came before"

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Date: 2005-05-17 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cvirtue.livejournal.com
aha. OptiMed was what bought HDI, wasn't it?

I always liked the new logo -- a hand punctured by holes. Very good for healthcare, I thought.

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Date: 2005-05-17 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goldsquare.livejournal.com
HDI produced Optimed. OptiMed was a product. Sort of.

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Date: 2005-05-17 03:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tpau
heh, i have worked for Ab Initio...

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Date: 2005-05-17 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goldsquare.livejournal.com
You do realize one of its founders is a former SCA person...

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Date: 2005-05-17 03:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tpau
Craig? yes. i was workign there because i babysat for his and Nesta's son Connor, and then needed a summer job...

Altria

Date: 2005-05-18 12:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] metageek.livejournal.com
The current rage is "a name which means nothing at all", cf Altria.

Well, Altria's a special case, since they were trying to escape brand recognition...

Actually, meaningless names have long been important for transnational companies. Bite The Wax Tadpole!

Next up

Date: 2005-05-17 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cvirtue.livejournal.com
You think maybe next will be interleaved caps like are seen in eBay ads? "InSuLaTorDyNe"

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Date: 2005-05-17 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] metahacker.livejournal.com
I predict the next generation of company names will be easily spelled on cell phones.

You may think Sup3r Co. looks silly as a name now, but it's hot with the kids...

More trends I'm glad to see go: Foo.com (my previous employ wasted ~$300k on a rebranding from X to X.com); eWhatever; iWhatever; lowerCaseInitial, in general; and anyone else who insists on having their *logo* be their *name*.

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Date: 2005-05-17 11:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bleemoo.livejournal.com
Amazing.net actually makes a certain amount of sense, given the fact that the online store (http://www.amazing.net) existed before any of the real-world branches.

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Date: 2005-05-18 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] metageek.livejournal.com
You can learn much about a product's history by looking at its namespaces.

Yep. When Endeca was founded, the working name for the company was Optigrab (from the glasses handle Steve Martin invents in The Jerk); we have a lot of "opti-" names in our codebase.

It's worse when the name gets exposed to the outside world. Qualcomm's BREW API (platform for writing apps to run on cellphones) has names prefixed with "AE_" (I think). Turns out it's a lightly productized version of the API they were using in-house, called Application Environment, and marketing didn't give them time to make changes before they released it. So the namespace leaks the product's major weakness: that it's an in-house library that was never meant for use by third parties. (Marketing, of course, fixed it later by retronaming BREW to BREW Application Execution Environment.)

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Date: 2005-05-18 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cvirtue.livejournal.com
And "endeca" means...?

Endeca

Date: 2005-05-18 01:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] metageek.livejournal.com
Yeah, I was hoping not to get called on that one. ;-) It's from the German "Entdecken", meaning "to find" or "to discover". It also works as a soundnotquitelike for "index", which is also appropriate for a search engine company.

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Date: 2005-05-17 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cvirtue.livejournal.com
Logo/name -- you mean like 'the jerk formerly known as Prince?"

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Date: 2005-05-17 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] metahacker.livejournal.com
That's an extreme case, but I mean anyone who always insists that their logo (font, color, capitalization) be used in a text context.

Like, if you want to talk about Ebay, you can't just talk about it, you have to at least spell it eBay and possibly ebaY. It was obnoxious with LATEX, and it's still obnoxious now...

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Date: 2005-05-17 08:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cvirtue.livejournal.com
I remember when Apple decided to enforce a certain amount of whitespace around their rainbow apples. The apparent effect was that all the apples got smaller. Stupid, imho.

Capitalization

Date: 2005-05-19 12:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] metageek.livejournal.com
Earliest example I can think of here is NeXT. (Well, OK, TeX predates it, but earliest corporate name.)

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Date: 2005-05-18 12:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] metageek.livejournal.com

I predict the next generation of company names will be easily spelled on cell phones.

You may think Sup3r Co. looks silly as a name now, but it's hot with the kids...

Not for long, though--predictive text has already made SMSspeak obsolete. It'll hang on as a fashion for a while, but that'll end if companies start using it to much--nobody wants to be associated with corporate poseurs.

my previous employ wasted ~$300k on a rebranding from X to X.com

My previous employer was named Incentive Systems--they started when nobody else was in the product space, and they needed a descriptive name. Then they started getting competition, and competitors started describing themselves as selling "incentive systems", at which point Incentive Systems decided it needed a new name.

So they hired a consultant to suggest a name that would be distinctive, but without being completely new, so that customers would realize it was the same company. $100K of consulting fees later, they settled on "Centiv". The VP of Marketing told us that there was a company called "Centiv", but that was OK, because they weren't in the same sort of business (they sold "signs for liquor stores", she told us--turned out they were broader than that), so here was no trademark risk. The other company already had "centiv.com", but we'd just take "centivinc.com" (even though we weren't formally changing the company name to Centiv, Inc.; we would be Incentive Systems, Inc., doing business as Centiv).

Well. Not surprisingly, our customers, when told we were now Centiv, tried to send mail to user@centiv.com; when that bounced, some of them would send mail to postmaster@centiv.com. So the people at the real Centiv, Inc., started seeing these strange messages, and quickly figured out what was going on. They threatened a trademark suit; rather than go to court over a name that was an obvious failure, Incentive switched to Centive, registered centive.com, and threw out all the Centiv-branded stuff they'd had printed up.

Shortly thereafter, the VP of Marketing "left to pursue other interests".

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Date: 2005-05-18 03:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] metahacker.livejournal.com
At least they didn't have you all paint "e"s on the end of the Centiv stuff... ;)

Maybe it was the same VP of Marketing. Ours was also drummed out of the company, in a ceremony that involved the lead programmer (a 40ish, slightly rotund gentleman) skipping around the office singing, "Ding, Dong, the Witch is Dead!"

It was that kind of company, in the end.

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