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[Happy birthday to [livejournal.com profile] gyzki!]

Those who are involved in the effort to produce a distributed version of LJ *really* should take a dig into what's going on over on the Twitter side of the fence. Due to Twitter's fundamental instability, there's a movement afoot to create a fully-distributed alternative to it. Given how much momentum Twitter has, if this *does* happen, it's likely to happen big, and those of us trying to produce reasonably open conversational systems will probably need to accomodate it.

([livejournal.com profile] metageek may be pleased to know that some people appear to be talking about just the sort of Jabber-based architecture he advocated in conversation last week...)

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Date: 2008-05-05 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elizabear.livejournal.com
Do you read Unshelved? Check out his recent comments: http://syndicated.livejournal.com/unshelved_comic/383657.html

Interesting...

Date: 2008-05-05 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] metageek.livejournal.com
Thanks for the heads-up. In fact, it seems this protocol is already defined in XEP-163, and implemented in ejabberd. Maybe I should set it up on thibault.org...

Re: Interesting...

Date: 2008-05-06 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] be-well-lowell.livejournal.com
Is there some kind of summary around? I haven't noticed any indications of the key distribution method, which is the key piece...

Re: Interesting...

Date: 2008-05-06 01:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] metageek.livejournal.com
Here's a post about it. XEP-0189 defines a mechanism for key distribution. It sends XMPP keys over XMPP, which doesn't address the bootstrap problem; but I'm not aware of any key distribution system which does.

Re: Interesting...

Date: 2008-05-06 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] be-well-lowell.livejournal.com
Connecting the key request to an original trigger is still a little unclear to me, but I suppose there are clearly multiple approaches that should work with a bit of effort.

The usual chicken-and-egg problem for trusting keys doesn't bother me particularly, because I think the requirements can be relaxed considerably from the general case.

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