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I gather (secondhand -- as usual, I'm not following closely) that the EK list has exploded with arguments about whether to limit the number of Court Baronies that can be given out. Shall we recap Justin's Rules of Bureaucracy?
  • Don't write a Law when a Guideline will suffice.

  • Don't write a Guideline when tweaking Custom will suffice.

  • And don't try to change Custom when it isn't broken in the first place.
From what I'm hearing (remember, hearsay), this seems to be one of those cases where the Rules are particularly applicable.

First off: Royalty trying to write Laws to tie the hands of later Royalty is simply a waste of time, guaranteed to get everybody angry for no good reason. If the next Royals disagree, they can simply change the Law back, and we get into silly tit-for-tat rewritings, using the Law as a political football. This makes everyone involved look bad, weakens everybody's respect for the Law, and hurts the Kingdom for no benefit. (This is trebly true if it's trying to change something that previous Monarchs *have* been doing, because it often comes across, with some justification, as a personal rebuke of how they governed.)

Second, this illustrates one of the key points of the Rules: that the "lower" levels are often more powerful than the "higher" ones. That is, Law can look arbitrary and over-powered: when you try to write something into Law, it leaves no room for maneuver, no wiggle-room for the exceptions (and there will *always* be exceptions), so people argue about it and disrespect it. Whereas writing a Guideline leaves future generations the flexibility they need to deal with the circumstances on the ground. And simply setting a good example -- making clear what you think, why you think it, and *doing* that -- is often most powerful. It doesn't try to *control* future Royalty (which many of them will find frustrating and resist), but simply tries to *influence* them for the better, which is something you really can do. It's notable that the Monarchs who have most influenced the course of the Kingdom have often made relatively few changes to Law, because rewriting Law (unintuitively) tends to make you *less* influential.

I'll be frank -- IMO, this is one of those cases where the Third Rule applies: I'm not sure the current situation is broken. Yes, some Royalty give out Court Baronies rather freely, but I know of few cases where they seem to be genuinely undeserved. But even if you think it *is* broken, trying to change Law is the wrong way to go about it, because it doesn't win the hearts-and-minds battle that is really at the center: it's neither necessary nor sufficient. Instead, you need to *convince* the current Royalty, some Royal Peers and as many of the up-and-coming contenders as possible that things should change, and you need to make clear to them *why* it should change, patiently and persistently. If you can't make a good enough argument to convince them, then you should consider that you might be wrong. And if you *can* convince them, then you've won anyway, and there is no need to go screwing around with Law...

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Date: 2009-12-09 05:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dsrtao
I wouldn't classify it as an explosion. Nobody is getting upset, nobody is calling names, and nobody is even being less than polite.

It is, however, generating a fair amount of traffic, on a topic which is definitely on-topic.

Also, you're probably right.

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Date: 2009-12-09 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liamstliam.livejournal.com
I would agree with Dan on the tone of the list.

It is definitely different from what might have happened pre-reboot.

I also agree with your commentary.

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Date: 2009-12-09 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonazure.livejournal.com
As usual, you are spot on. The whole notion of legislating behavior within the SCA when "policy" or Custom will suffice usually turns out badly--and in my experience ends up either invoking the Law of Unintended Consequences or it simply gets ignored / abandoned as too cumbersome to administer anyway.

What is more troubling to me is when Law is used as a lever to shuffle the importance of various offices in order to increase individuals' profiles and lend a little weight to their SCA CV, or to alternatively deal with an individual's "issues" rather than confronting them directly. Padding resumés by legistlation and gerrymandering someone to irrelevance. And yes, I've seen both happen.

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Date: 2009-12-09 05:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tpau
not exploding and nto even an argument. a rather nice, polite, informative discussion...

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Date: 2009-12-09 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goldsquare.livejournal.com
I think that the particular question (limit Court Baronies per reign) is actually helping to highlight that custom and guidelines are no longer really sufficing all that much.

You can't fix that with law, though.

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Date: 2009-12-09 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] talvinamarich.livejournal.com
The first Court Barony was given along with the first Award of Arms to distinguish it from the others. It was given to Sylvanus (sp?), squire of the First Knight in the SCA. It was given, as I recall, at a Twelfth Night celebration.

I suspect the arguments about giving them out started within 2 minutes and 13.095 seconds of the reading of the scroll. However, it may have started sooner, and even escalated within that time.

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